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Dec 2, 2013 7:00pm EST
. but you look at the numbers here, the u.n. study, extreme poverty has fallen 43% in the last 20 years. the world bank, extreme poverty has fallen by about 25% in the last 30 years. 163% increase in world growth among the developing countries. in other words, that part of the equation is working. what's not working, michael miller, and this is my -- what's not working is the move to secularism. we're moving away from morality and spiritualism and religiousty. that's what pope john paul ii and pope benedict talked about. why is francis not harping on that? >> i think he is. this is a key point. let's not try to spin francis and say he's pro-capitalist because he surely isn't. part of this is he grew up in argentina where his experience of capitalism is crony capitalism, big business, big government, big interest groups all working together. and really excluding the poor. but i think if you look at his document, he's talking about consumerism. he's talking about really the underlying problems that, look, i'm a free marketer like you, larry. but we can agree that a free market perfectly r
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